Srebrenica Christmas Massacre
Jan 5th, 2008 | By De-Construct.net | In Bosnia
Serbian victims of Naser Oric’s Srebrenica-stationed mujahedins. Bratunac Memorial, Republika Srpska, Bosnia-Herzegovina.
Srebrenica Christmas Massacre Remembered
Memorial Service in the Church of Saints Peter and Paul and laying wreaths at the central monument in Kravice near Bratunac, Republic of Srpska (Bosnia and Herzegovina), marked the 15th annual commemoration of the killing of 49 Serbs, executed on Christmas day, January 7, 1993, by the Bosnian Muslim forces from Srebrenica, who on the same day also wounded 86 persons.
Muslim forces from Srebrenica, under the command of the Hague convict Naser Oric, attacked Kravice and neighboring Serbian villages from several directions on the dawn of Christmas Day and massacred all the inhabitants who did not manage to escape, at their doorsteps.
Over 1,000 Serbian villagers, carrying children and their wounded, managed to reach river Drina on foot, through the heavy snow and mountainous inroads, from where they were carried to Serbia on boats.
Srebrenica Mujahedins’ Bloody Campaign has Taken 3,500 Serbian Lives
“The attack on Kravice was the continuation of the bloody campaign of the 28th Muslim division under Oric’s command, which begun in May 1992. In two years, members of this division have killed over 3,500 civilians and soldiers for no other reason, but because they were Serbs,” the President of the Republika Srpska Veteran organization Pantelija Curguz said, addressing the gathering at the monument in Kravice which is under construction in memory of 3.262 thus far identified Serbs killed in the Srebrenica region in 1992 and 1993.
At the central monument, the flowers and wreaths were laid by the representatives of veteran organizations of Republic of Srpska and Bratunac municipality, by the families of the killed, the organization of camp survivors, Bratunac municipal officials, as well as by the representatives of Serbian democratic and Serbian Radical Party.
Like in previous years, not a single international representative attended the commemoration.
Ethnic Cleansing of Bosnian Serbs Nonpunishable
Before the Bosnian civil war (1992-1995), Serbian Kravice municipality had around 2,500 inhabitants. During the war it was continuously targeted by the Bosnian mujahedins from the nearby Srebrenica and Bratunac. In the area encompassing 64 square kilometers surrounding Srebrenica, where Oric’s mujahedins were stationed until 1995, Bosnian Muslims have destroyed all the villages — 30 in total, leveling to the ground each of 688 apartment buildings and 27 community objects.
Out of those 30 villages, 26 are today completely empty and destroyed. An insignificantly small number of people have returned to only four of these villages.
For the ethnic cleansing and atrocious war crimes committed against the Serbian population in Kravice municipality, except Naser Oric who was charged by the Hague Kangaroo Court (ICTY) to two years imprisonment and is already free, no Bosnian Muslim has faced any charges.






How can the international community except Serbs to swallow all these injustices?
Dear Svetlana,
Not only has noone faced charges for the atrocities committed against Serbs, but our history has been re-written, our heritage in process of being completely eliminated and our children thought to hate themselves.
Beginning from communist ideas that Serbs moved to Balkans (unabale to justify existence of other made up nationalities, brotherhood and unity, as well being unable to justify creating a country with Ustashe Nazis who killed almost a million of Serbs), all the way through Serb guilt and shame of being Serbs.
Today, the Western World is so indoctrinated with the hatred of Serbs, that it is becoming socially acceptable to bash, hate and smear Serbs.
It has become impossible that a Serb could be a victim, just like it has become impossible for Albanian, Croat or a Bosnian to be a perpetrator.
Just like noone today is sure of Origins of Serbs, the aim of certain groups/lobbys/individuals is that in about 500 years time, noone will be sure that Serbs ever existed, but instead there will be Shumadinians and Vojvodians – a race of people everyone will again be unsure about the origins of.
…
áòõтûðýð, òõрујõü ôð ÑÂø öøòõûð у ÈуóþÑÂûðòøјø ѕð òрõüõ âøтð. áòø ÑÂу üþóûø ÑÂòõ ôð ÿõòðју ýðцøþýðûøÑÂтøчúõ ÿõÑÂüõ, ôð ÑÂõ хòðûõ ÑÂòþјøü ø÷üøшљõýøü ýðцøјðüð, ð ÷ð ýðѠјõ уòõú òðöøûþ ôð ÑÂòõ тþ þô ÑÂтрðýõ áрñð јÃµ ÒõûøúþÑÂрÿÑÂúø èþòøýø÷ðü. Þýø ÑÂу ýð ýðѠуòõú óûõôðûø úðþ ýð ÑÂõљðúõ.
áûþòõýцø ÑÂðôð ýðòþôýþ туóују ÷ð ÑÂтðрþü ÈуóþÑÂûðòøјþü. âуóују, јÃµÑ€ ÑÂðô ýõüð áрñøјõ ôð ÑÂõ üу÷õ ø ôð јÃµ ÑÂòø јÃµÃ±Ñƒ ø ÿљðчúðју úðúþ њøüð þôóþòðрð.
Ñøћõ ÑÂòøüð њøüð ÿþ јÃµÃ´Ã½Ã° ÑþÑÂýð, ø ÿþ јÃµÃ´Ã½Ã¾ ÚþÑÂþòþ у њøхþòøü ôрöðòðüð, óрðђõýøü ýð óрñðчðüð рþñþòð, ø úþòðýõ úрòљу ôруóøх ýðрþôð.
@ SL – What do you mean when you say ‘international community’? Do you mean USA, UK and some NATO contries?
@ Mila – There is a lot of truth in your comment. All those days in Yugoslavia we (Serbs) lived in a kind of fantasy, didn’t want to see reality. Now we must pay for that. It’s cruel. But the world didn’t change, only we have opened eyes.
There is a great site. A lot of things to read:
http://www.kosovo.net/hist2.html
Marry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you.
The time has come for us Serbs to start from the beginning.
@ SL – What do you mean when you say ‘international community’? Do you mean USA, UK and some NATO contries?
@ Mila – There is a lot of truth in your comment. All those days in Yugoslavia we (Serbs) lived in a kind of fantasy, didn’t want to see reality. Now we must pay for that. It’s cruel. But the world didn’t change, only we have opened eyes.
There is a great site. A lot of things to read:
http://www.kosovo.net/hist2.html
Marry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you.
The time has come for us Serbs to start from the beginning.
I meant America specifically and the U.N in general. I mean where is our compensation for the centuries of suffering?
Start from the beginning? You self-bashing Sorosian infected minds never stops surprising me!
Serbs have nothing to be ashamed of other than always at every price, even death, defend Their culture and religion. Traitors as “bosniaks” and other made up naionalities does.
Zhana I can’t believe the retardation of your comment that the rest of the world didn’t change but we have to “open our eyes” ! That is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard coming from a Serbian because indeed the world has changed from not supporting Nazis to supporting them in the Balkans. The world wants to change Serbs but it will fail miserably like it did numerous times in the past oh 500 years! Ask Germany how successful they were. Don’t worry about the USA because it’s all about selling guns because there is big money in it. Once they exhaust the Albanian resources and buying power the policy will shift. Remember the USA was once ally with IRAN and Iraq’s Saddam Hussein but….. What happened ? In 15 years America will switch their Balkan strategy 180 degrees! What happened in Srebenica to the Serbs is the most evil act upon innocent Serbs that has gone unpunished since Jasenovac but at least Mladic got our retribution! Sretan Bozic! 2008
Dragan,
What do you mean Mladic got our retribution????
Mladic is a Serb hero that defended it’s people with valour & distinction.
If you mean the Srebrenica massacre, then your mistaken.
That was a hoax created to villefy Mladic & Serbs in general.
This link can explain that better then me.
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Bosnia/Srebrenica/index.html
Dragan,
What do you mean Mladic got our retribution????
Mladic is a Serb hero that defended it’s people with valour & distinction.
If you mean the Srebrenica massacre, then your mistaken.
That was a hoax created to villefy Mladic & Serbs in general.
This link can explain that better then me.
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Bosnia/Srebrenica/index.html
Merry Christmas, Svetlana. I have commented on the massacre over at The Exile, so expect all the usual loonies to crawl out of the woodwork and deny it ever happened.
Merry Christmas, Svetlana. I have commented on the massacre over at The Exile, so expect all the usual loonies to crawl out of the woodwork and deny it ever happened.
Merry Christmas to you too, Britmex and Zhana, and all – or, as we say: Christ is Born! Indeed He is Born!
Thank you, dear Ken, for posting the information about a bloody Christmas Srebrenica Muslims staged for Bosnian Serbs. Denial won’t help bring back the victims, nor will it do anything for their families and those permanently scarred by the bestial mujahedin orgies they have witnessed in Bosnia, barely escaping it themselves.
It is massacres like these that have made General Mladic issue a number of warnings to both the UN and Dutch troops protecting Oric’s monsters in Srebrenica “safe haven” (the irony of the ‘safe haven’ misnomer is as offensive as it can get!) In 1995, General Mladic finally said – that’s it, we’ll take over that shithole, this has got to end! Most jihadists, along with Oric himself, escaped in time (unfortunately), but what was left, once women, old and children were sent to safety, were not innocent “Muslim boys and men”, but bloodthirsty thugs that deserved much worse, much earlier. Still, neither 7,000 nor 8,000 were killed. Mythology is the very soul of propaganda.
Merry Christmas to you too, Britmex and Zhana, and all – or, as we say: Christ is Born! Indeed He is Born!
Thank you, dear Ken, for posting the information about a bloody Christmas Srebrenica Muslims staged for Bosnian Serbs. Denial won’t help bring back the victims, nor will it do anything for their families and those permanently scarred by the bestial mujahedin orgies they have witnessed in Bosnia, barely escaping it themselves.
It is massacres like these that have made General Mladic issue a number of warnings to both the UN and Dutch troops protecting Oric’s monsters in Srebrenica “safe haven” (the irony of the ‘safe haven’ misnomer is as offensive as it can get!) In 1995, General Mladic finally said – that’s it, we’ll take over that shithole, this has got to end! Most jihadists, along with Oric himself, escaped in time (unfortunately), but what was left, once women, old and children were sent to safety, were not innocent “Muslim boys and men”, but bloodthirsty thugs that deserved much worse, much earlier. Still, neither 7,000 nor 8,000 were killed. Mythology is the very soul of propaganda.
åрøÑÂтþѠÑÂõ рþôø!
ÒðøÑÂтøýу ÑÂõ рþôø!
Ãâ€Ã‘€Ã°Ã³Ã° Üøûð,
÷ýðü ôð ÑÂõ у âøтþòþ òрõüõ öøòõûþ ÿþ ÑÂтðýôðрôøüð ÿþрõôøòøü ÑÂð ñøûþ úþјþü ÷ðÿðôýþü ÷õüљþü. ßрþñûõü јÃµ штþ јÃµ âøтþ ñøþ üðÑÂþýÑÂúþ úþüуýøÑÂтøчúþ ђуñрõ úþјõ јÃµ òõрþòðûþ ôð ÑÂûðñљõњõü áрñøјõ јÃ°Ñ‡Ã° ÈуóþÑÂûðòøјð ø ôþú ÑÂу ÑÂõ üýþóø áрñø утðÿðûø у ýõÿþÑÂтþјõћõ “јуóþÑÂûþòõýÑÂтòþ” ø трчðûø ôð ÑÂõ ÿþýþÑÂýþ ø÷јðшњðòðју úðþ ÈуóþÑÂûþòõýø, áûþòõýцø ÑÂу þÑÂтðјðûø áûþòõýцø, Úрòðтø ÑÂу ÑÂõ ÿþýþÑÂøûø ÑÂòþјøü úрòðтÑÂтòþü, Üðúõôþýцø ÑÂð ÑÂòþјøх ÿðр ôõцõýøјð øÑÂтþрøјõ, ð þ шøÿтðрøüð ø ôð ýõ óþòþрøü.
ßрøчð üø úуüð ÿрõ ýõúþó òрõüõýð úðúþ јÃ¾Ñ˜ јÃµ у åрòðтÑÂúþј, óôõ јÃµ њõýð ÿþрþôøцð öøòõûð ýõúþûøúþ òõúþòð, тþúþü ýõúõ øóрõ јÃµÃ´Ã°Ã½ üðûø ÿþýþÑÂýþ рõúðþ: Èð ÑÂðü åрòðт!, ð ôруóø: Èð ÑÂðü ÑþÑÂðýðц! ßð ÑÂõ þýôð þúрõýу úð њþј ø ÿøтðју јÃµ – ð штð ÑÂø тø? àþýð ÑÂõ, úðöõ, у÷òрÿþљøûð, тðüþ-òðüþ – ýõ ÷ýð. áрÿúøњð, ðûø ýõ ÷ýð ôð јÃµ áрÿúøњð. âрú úућø úþô üðüõ у ÿðýøцø, ÿð њу ÿøтð: Üðüð, þòðј úðöõ ôð јÃµ þý åрòðт, ð þýðј ôруóø ôð јÃµ ÑþÑÂðýðц– ð штð ÑÂðü јÃ°?
“âø ÑÂø, ôушþ, ÈуóþÑÂûþòõýúð. âþ тø њøüð úðöø.”
ÃËœ üþјð ôрðóð úуüøцð, áрÿúøњð ôþ úþÑÂúõ, ÑÂòð òõÑÂõûð þтрчø ýð÷ðô ø ÿþýþÑÂýþ þñјðòø ôð јÃµ þýð ÈуóþÑÂûþòõý. ×ýðчø, ÑÂòø ÑÂу þýø ýõштþ – øüðју ýõúðúòу ýðцøþýðûýþÑÂÑ‚, ÿþрõúûþ (ÿþôрøјõтûþ) ø øÑÂтþрøју, üðúðр ø рþÿÑÂúу, ÿþôрõÿðшúу ø уÑÂтðшúу, ÑÂðüþ ÑÂüþ üø áрñø ýøштð. Èõр “јуóþÑÂûþòõýÑÂúð ýðцøјð” ýøтø ÿþÑÂтþјø, ýøтø јÃµ øúðô ÿþÑÂтþјðûð.
âðúþ јÃµ тþ ñøûþ ø тðúþ јÃµ òõћøýþü ø ôðýðÑÂ: ÑÂòø þúþ ýðѠ÷ýðју úþ ÑÂу ø штð ÑÂу, ø ÑÂрõћýø ÑÂу штþ ÑÂу тþ штþ јÃµÑÂу, ÑÂðüþ ÑÂõ áрñø ÑÂтøôõ ø ÑÂòþјõ òõрõ ø ÑÂòþјõ ýðцøјõ ø ÑÂòþó ÿþрõúûð ø øüõýð ø ýðÑÂûõђð. ßð üýþóø, ðúþ òõћ ýõ üþóу òøшõ ôð ñуôу ÈуóþÑÂûþòõýø, óûõôðју úðúþ ôð ÿþÑÂтðýу Õýóûõ÷ø, ÃÂüõрøúðýцø ø äрðýцу÷ø – ÑÂòõ, ÑÂðüþ ôð ýõ ñуôу áрñø.
âøтþ ýðѠјõ ãßàÞßÃÂáâØÞ, ýõ ÑÂðüþ ÑÂð ÚþÑÂþòþü ø Üõтþхøјþü, ø Òþјòþôøýþü, ýõóþ ø ýð ÑÂòõ ôруóõ ýðчøýõ.
…àáûþòõýцø ø Úрòðтø ÑÂòðúðúþ трõñð ôð üу óрðôõ ø ÑÂÿþüõýøúõ ø ÑÂúуûÿтурõ ø òõчýõ ÿûðüõýþòõ… ôð øü ýõ ñø âøтð, þýø штþ øх јÃµ âуђüðý ø÷òуúðþ øÑÂÿþô úðüõýð ôõòõôõÑÂõтøх ñø ôðòýþ ÿрõ ÷ðòршøûø у ÃÂøрýñõрóу.
åрøÑÂтþѠÑÂõ рþôø!
ÒðøÑÂтøýу ÑÂõ рþôø!
Ãâ€Ã‘€Ã°Ã³Ã° Üøûð,
÷ýðü ôð ÑÂõ у âøтþòþ òрõüõ öøòõûþ ÿþ ÑÂтðýôðрôøüð ÿþрõôøòøü ÑÂð ñøûþ úþјþü ÷ðÿðôýþü ÷õüљþü. ßрþñûõü јÃµ штþ јÃµ âøтþ ñøþ üðÑÂþýÑÂúþ úþüуýøÑÂтøчúþ ђуñрõ úþјõ јÃµ òõрþòðûþ ôð ÑÂûðñљõњõü áрñøјõ јÃ°Ñ‡Ã° ÈуóþÑÂûðòøјð ø ôþú ÑÂу ÑÂõ üýþóø áрñø утðÿðûø у ýõÿþÑÂтþјõћõ “јуóþÑÂûþòõýÑÂтòþ” ø трчðûø ôð ÑÂõ ÿþýþÑÂýþ ø÷јðшњðòðју úðþ ÈуóþÑÂûþòõýø, áûþòõýцø ÑÂу þÑÂтðјðûø áûþòõýцø, Úрòðтø ÑÂу ÑÂõ ÿþýþÑÂøûø ÑÂòþјøü úрòðтÑÂтòþü, Üðúõôþýцø ÑÂð ÑÂòþјøх ÿðр ôõцõýøјð øÑÂтþрøјõ, ð þ шøÿтðрøüð ø ôð ýõ óþòþрøü.
ßрøчð üø úуüð ÿрõ ýõúþó òрõüõýð úðúþ јÃ¾Ñ˜ јÃµ у åрòðтÑÂúþј, óôõ јÃµ њõýð ÿþрþôøцð öøòõûð ýõúþûøúþ òõúþòð, тþúþü ýõúõ øóрõ јÃµÃ´Ã°Ã½ üðûø ÿþýþÑÂýþ рõúðþ: Èð ÑÂðü åрòðт!, ð ôруóø: Èð ÑÂðü ÑþÑÂðýðц! ßð ÑÂõ þýôð þúрõýу úð њþј ø ÿøтðју јÃµ – ð штð ÑÂø тø? àþýð ÑÂõ, úðöõ, у÷òрÿþљøûð, тðüþ-òðüþ – ýõ ÷ýð. áрÿúøњð, ðûø ýõ ÷ýð ôð јÃµ áрÿúøњð. âрú úућø úþô üðüõ у ÿðýøцø, ÿð њу ÿøтð: Üðüð, þòðј úðöõ ôð јÃµ þý åрòðт, ð þýðј ôруóø ôð јÃµ ÑþÑÂðýðц– ð штð ÑÂðü јÃ°?
“âø ÑÂø, ôушþ, ÈуóþÑÂûþòõýúð. âþ тø њøüð úðöø.”
ÃËœ üþјð ôрðóð úуüøцð, áрÿúøњð ôþ úþÑÂúõ, ÑÂòð òõÑÂõûð þтрчø ýð÷ðô ø ÿþýþÑÂýþ þñјðòø ôð јÃµ þýð ÈуóþÑÂûþòõý. ×ýðчø, ÑÂòø ÑÂу þýø ýõштþ – øüðју ýõúðúòу ýðцøþýðûýþÑÂÑ‚, ÿþрõúûþ (ÿþôрøјõтûþ) ø øÑÂтþрøју, üðúðр ø рþÿÑÂúу, ÿþôрõÿðшúу ø уÑÂтðшúу, ÑÂðüþ ÑÂüþ üø áрñø ýøштð. Èõр “јуóþÑÂûþòõýÑÂúð ýðцøјð” ýøтø ÿþÑÂтþјø, ýøтø јÃµ øúðô ÿþÑÂтþјðûð.
âðúþ јÃµ тþ ñøûþ ø тðúþ јÃµ òõћøýþü ø ôðýðÑÂ: ÑÂòø þúþ ýðѠ÷ýðју úþ ÑÂу ø штð ÑÂу, ø ÑÂрõћýø ÑÂу штþ ÑÂу тþ штþ јÃµÑÂу, ÑÂðüþ ÑÂõ áрñø ÑÂтøôõ ø ÑÂòþјõ òõрõ ø ÑÂòþјõ ýðцøјõ ø ÑÂòþó ÿþрõúûð ø øüõýð ø ýðÑÂûõђð. ßð üýþóø, ðúþ òõћ ýõ üþóу òøшõ ôð ñуôу ÈуóþÑÂûþòõýø, óûõôðју úðúþ ôð ÿþÑÂтðýу Õýóûõ÷ø, ÃÂüõрøúðýцø ø äрðýцу÷ø – ÑÂòõ, ÑÂðüþ ôð ýõ ñуôу áрñø.
âøтþ ýðѠјõ ãßàÞßÃÂáâØÞ, ýõ ÑÂðüþ ÑÂð ÚþÑÂþòþü ø Üõтþхøјþü, ø Òþјòþôøýþü, ýõóþ ø ýð ÑÂòõ ôруóõ ýðчøýõ.
…àáûþòõýцø ø Úрòðтø ÑÂòðúðúþ трõñð ôð üу óрðôõ ø ÑÂÿþüõýøúõ ø ÑÂúуûÿтурõ ø òõчýõ ÿûðüõýþòõ… ôð øü ýõ ñø âøтð, þýø штþ øх јÃµ âуђüðý ø÷òуúðþ øÑÂÿþô úðüõýð ôõòõôõÑÂõтøх ñø ôðòýþ ÿрõ ÷ðòршøûø у ÃÂøрýñõрóу.
@DraganM
Mir božiji, Hristos se rodi!
It seems you are very impassioned, DraganM. Sometimes it could make a person blind. And, such vocabulary!…..
But, OK, it’s on you.
Well, when I said about ‘world’ and ‘have opened eyes’ (not ‘have to open our eyes’ – I have used present perfect tense), I have meant that living in Yugoslavia we (especially Serbs) were blind for many things and facts. First of all, during the whole my education I never heard about allied bombing; I also never heard about real and continual British interest (it lasts for centuries) to support Turkey, being afraid of Russia, and to eliminate Serbs and our interests. And now, when we talk about Kosovo and Metohija, independence and European countries that will support it, first you can hear Austria and Germany. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear soon that the story about Mladic and Karadzic as war criminals was created in one or both of these countries (like the awful story about Muslim women rape in Bosnia).
And about USA – I don’t find they are really dangerous, at least not so much as UK. Recently I have started believing that the real creator of present Anglo-Saxon policy was created in British circles a few centuries ago.
And other examples we’ve heard or will hear.
@DraganM
Mir božiji, Hristos se rodi!
It seems you are very impassioned, DraganM. Sometimes it could make a person blind. And, such vocabulary!…..
But, OK, it’s on you.
Well, when I said about ‘world’ and ‘have opened eyes’ (not ‘have to open our eyes’ – I have used present perfect tense), I have meant that living in Yugoslavia we (especially Serbs) were blind for many things and facts. First of all, during the whole my education I never heard about allied bombing; I also never heard about real and continual British interest (it lasts for centuries) to support Turkey, being afraid of Russia, and to eliminate Serbs and our interests. And now, when we talk about Kosovo and Metohija, independence and European countries that will support it, first you can hear Austria and Germany. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear soon that the story about Mladic and Karadzic as war criminals was created in one or both of these countries (like the awful story about Muslim women rape in Bosnia).
And about USA – I don’t find they are really dangerous, at least not so much as UK. Recently I have started believing that the real creator of present Anglo-Saxon policy was created in British circles a few centuries ago.
And other examples we’ve heard or will hear.
@Zhana, Vocabulary? Since when do you start a sentence with AND? Look I understand your a pro western Serb that wants us to give in and capitulate, but I will not! I don’t care who created this anti-Serb propaganda but I know one thing about Washington that you probably do not! During the Clinton administration the State Department decided to bomb the Bosnian Serbs and support the Mujhadin while the CIA and Pentagon were incensed and the two organizations were against each other! But Clinton turned his back to his intelligence, who was telling him Arab terrorist fighters were flooding Bosnia and creating a real threat to international peace, especially in Europe! Tudjman opened his airports to Iranian weapons and created a safe haven for the Mujhadin to cross into Bosnia even though his own son said he didn’t agree with it! I don’t care really what happened back then as much I care about what will happen to Serbs in the Balkans tomorrow?
You are correct about Britain supporting Turkey and I agree with you on some points, but you did say “we have to open our eyes” ! Also you did say that, “the rest of the world has changed” but Serbs have not. Look I don’t know what school you attended but I will guess it was a pro-Tadic supporting institution that believes Serbs were the real aggressors in the wars. Tadic apologized to Croatia!! Why? They should apologize to Serbia for kicking out 500,000 Serbs from Krajina! We must stop feeling like we were the “bad guys” because it is not the case at all! Serbs have always got the short end of the stick and I am sick and tired of it! I am a supporter of Nikolic and the SRS because we need to go towards Russia and not be slaves to the NAZI organization called the EU and Brussels! We need to put our foot down as a Serbian nation, and take what is ours by enforcing international law regarding a Serbia’s sovereign territory! CCCC
@Zhana, Vocabulary? Since when do you start a sentence with AND? Look I understand your a pro western Serb that wants us to give in and capitulate, but I will not! I don’t care who created this anti-Serb propaganda but I know one thing about Washington that you probably do not! During the Clinton administration the State Department decided to bomb the Bosnian Serbs and support the Mujhadin while the CIA and Pentagon were incensed and the two organizations were against each other! But Clinton turned his back to his intelligence, who was telling him Arab terrorist fighters were flooding Bosnia and creating a real threat to international peace, especially in Europe! Tudjman opened his airports to Iranian weapons and created a safe haven for the Mujhadin to cross into Bosnia even though his own son said he didn’t agree with it! I don’t care really what happened back then as much I care about what will happen to Serbs in the Balkans tomorrow?
You are correct about Britain supporting Turkey and I agree with you on some points, but you did say “we have to open our eyes” ! Also you did say that, “the rest of the world has changed” but Serbs have not. Look I don’t know what school you attended but I will guess it was a pro-Tadic supporting institution that believes Serbs were the real aggressors in the wars. Tadic apologized to Croatia!! Why? They should apologize to Serbia for kicking out 500,000 Serbs from Krajina! We must stop feeling like we were the “bad guys” because it is not the case at all! Serbs have always got the short end of the stick and I am sick and tired of it! I am a supporter of Nikolic and the SRS because we need to go towards Russia and not be slaves to the NAZI organization called the EU and Brussels! We need to put our foot down as a Serbian nation, and take what is ours by enforcing international law regarding a Serbia’s sovereign territory! CCCC
Dragi Dragane,
ja se sasvim slazem sa svim tvojim stavovima i misljenjem, ali mislim da je Zana isto patriota i da ono sto je ovde napisala nije pro-zapadni stav, vec da jednostavno znaci: ista ta govna su uvek vladala Zapadom, samo sto mi Srbi toga nismo bili svesni. Tako sam barem ja razumela to sto je rekla. I nismo bili svesni, istina je, kao sto i vecina srpskih nazovi-intelektualaca danas u Srbiji nije svesno, nego su vecinom goveda koja veruju da je sve na Zapadu suvo zlato, demokratija, sloboda i ostale bajke za naivne, a da ‘nazadnu’ Srbiju treba “prosvecivati” i pozapadnjaciti.
Ja iskreno sumnjam da ovaj sajt posecuju sorosevci, tadicevci i ostali Jevropejci i placenici, zato sto znam da im je moj i tvoj nacin razmisljanja nepodnosljiv – oni preziru sve sto se na ovom sajtu nalazi, pa sumnjam da bi se zadrzavali i upustali u komentarisanje jer ovde ne mogu nikoga da vuku za nos.
Zato mislim da nema potrebe da se upustamo u licne rasprave i osudjujemo jedni druge. To samo moze da oraspolozi i obraduje srpske neprijatelje iz poznatih srbomrzackih kampova, za koje zasigurno znam da redovno i uredno posecuju ove stranice.
Dragi Dragane,
ja se sasvim slazem sa svim tvojim stavovima i misljenjem, ali mislim da je Zana isto patriota i da ono sto je ovde napisala nije pro-zapadni stav, vec da jednostavno znaci: ista ta govna su uvek vladala Zapadom, samo sto mi Srbi toga nismo bili svesni. Tako sam barem ja razumela to sto je rekla. I nismo bili svesni, istina je, kao sto i vecina srpskih nazovi-intelektualaca danas u Srbiji nije svesno, nego su vecinom goveda koja veruju da je sve na Zapadu suvo zlato, demokratija, sloboda i ostale bajke za naivne, a da ‘nazadnu’ Srbiju treba “prosvecivati” i pozapadnjaciti.
Ja iskreno sumnjam da ovaj sajt posecuju sorosevci, tadicevci i ostali Jevropejci i placenici, zato sto znam da im je moj i tvoj nacin razmisljanja nepodnosljiv – oni preziru sve sto se na ovom sajtu nalazi, pa sumnjam da bi se zadrzavali i upustali u komentarisanje jer ovde ne mogu nikoga da vuku za nos.
Zato mislim da nema potrebe da se upustamo u licne rasprave i osudjujemo jedni druge. To samo moze da oraspolozi i obraduje srpske neprijatelje iz poznatih srbomrzackih kampova, za koje zasigurno znam da redovno i uredno posecuju ove stranice.
@DraganM
Volela bih da ti postavim nek pitanja.
Da li – ‘CCCC’ – znaÄÂi Samo Sloga Srbina SpaÅ¡ava? i
Da li ti živiš u Srbiji ili u nekoj zemlji na Zapadu?
@Svetlana
Od sve ove muke koja nas je zadesila sve ove godine (a veruj mi Å¡to je ÄÂovek stariji to ona teže pada) mislim da je najgore upravo to Å¡to smo se (ili su nas) uljuljkivali u neistine ili privide. I krajnje je vreme da poÄÂnemo da sluÅ¡amo ili bolje reći osluÅ¡kujemo istinu.
MeÄ‘utim, gde ja vidim problem jeste ratovanje i taj ratniÄÂki vokabular. Nikad ne veruj dovoljno onome ko o ratu govori a nije ga neposredno doživeo, pa ÄÂak i ako ga je doživeo ali kao voÄ‘a ili u blizini voÄ‘e (takav je, po prirodi stvari uvek zaÅ¡tićen). O ratu treba da govore samo oni koji su u njemu uÄÂestvovali ili koji su ga neposredno doživeli i to obiÄÂan svet, ljudi koji nisu imali mnogo. Takvi najviÅ¡e stradaju – fiziÄÂki, psihiÄÂki, moralno…
Zbog toga nijedna krajnjost nije dobra, ni ona koja se ponizno klanja pred silom, ali joÅ¡ manje ona koja udara u ratniÄÂke talambase, na bilo koji naÄÂin. Jer na kraju plati narod na ÄÂija plaća taj rat padne. Malo je onih koji o narodu razmiÅ¡ljaju kroz njegove suÅ¡tinske kategorije. Ovo teÅ¡ko vreme je pokazalo koliko je lako mnogima da moralno pokleknu. ÄŒini se da je “borba protiv spoljnog neprijatelja” potpuno neutralisala “borbu protiv unutraÅ¡njeg neprijatelja”, protiv sopstvenih slabosti. Sve to izgleda lepo i sjajno kada se uzvikuju parole, ali posle….
@DraganM
Volela bih da ti postavim nek pitanja.
Da li – ‘CCCC’ – znaÄÂi Samo Sloga Srbina SpaÅ¡ava? i
Da li ti živiš u Srbiji ili u nekoj zemlji na Zapadu?
@Svetlana
Od sve ove muke koja nas je zadesila sve ove godine (a veruj mi Å¡to je ÄÂovek stariji to ona teže pada) mislim da je najgore upravo to Å¡to smo se (ili su nas) uljuljkivali u neistine ili privide. I krajnje je vreme da poÄÂnemo da sluÅ¡amo ili bolje reći osluÅ¡kujemo istinu.
MeÄ‘utim, gde ja vidim problem jeste ratovanje i taj ratniÄÂki vokabular. Nikad ne veruj dovoljno onome ko o ratu govori a nije ga neposredno doživeo, pa ÄÂak i ako ga je doživeo ali kao voÄ‘a ili u blizini voÄ‘e (takav je, po prirodi stvari uvek zaÅ¡tićen). O ratu treba da govore samo oni koji su u njemu uÄÂestvovali ili koji su ga neposredno doživeli i to obiÄÂan svet, ljudi koji nisu imali mnogo. Takvi najviÅ¡e stradaju – fiziÄÂki, psihiÄÂki, moralno…
Zbog toga nijedna krajnjost nije dobra, ni ona koja se ponizno klanja pred silom, ali joÅ¡ manje ona koja udara u ratniÄÂke talambase, na bilo koji naÄÂin. Jer na kraju plati narod na ÄÂija plaća taj rat padne. Malo je onih koji o narodu razmiÅ¡ljaju kroz njegove suÅ¡tinske kategorije. Ovo teÅ¡ko vreme je pokazalo koliko je lako mnogima da moralno pokleknu. ÄŒini se da je “borba protiv spoljnog neprijatelja” potpuno neutralisala “borbu protiv unutraÅ¡njeg neprijatelja”, protiv sopstvenih slabosti. Sve to izgleda lepo i sjajno kada se uzvikuju parole, ali posle….
Zana,
sada mi je jasno da je tebe Dragan mnogo bolje razumeo nego ja. Ti iznosis neke generalne stavove koji nista ne govore a neprijatno podsecaju na sorosevska kreveljenja i bljezgarije: rat je los, treba gledati sopstvene slabosti, boriti se sa ‘unutrasnjim neprijateljem’… o cemu ti uopste pricas?! Sta si ti – kineski mudrac?
Moram da te podsetim da sve ove kvazi-filozofske apstraktne bezvezarije pises u komentarima ispod clanka o vrlo konkretnim uzasnim zlocinima bosanskih muslimana protiv srpskih civila u okolini Srebrenice. Ako imas nesto konkretno i jasno da kazes po tom pitanju, izvoli i reci. Ali ako imas nameru da muljas i presipas iz supljeg u prazno, kao do sada, budi ljubazna pa se uzdrzi od daljeg javljanja – zaludna sorosevska blebetanja i cederski tripovi nisu dobrodosli.
Otkud ti, uopste, ideja da neko treba da trosi svoje dragoceno vreme na vrludanja tvojih misaonih procesa?! Mozda kad postanes Nobelovac – do tada, kao Zhana (jel’ tvoje ime ×хðýð, zivota ti?!) i sa imbecilnim simbolima kao @ i sl, a posebno sa ovakvim nadri-poetskim aluzijama, migovima i nagovestajima na krajnje neprikladnom mestu komotno mozes malo da oladis.
Ni Dragan, ni bilo ko drugi nije duzan da odgovora na tvoja (besmislena i uvredljiva!) pitanja. Kakva drskost! Ovo nije ni forum, ni chatroom gde se ti blize upoznajes i ispitujes clanove, niti je mesto gde si pozvana da popujes i poducavas druge zivotnim istinama. Ako to zelis, savetujem ti da platis svoj prostor na internetu, kako bi drzala predavanja i lekcije iz morala posetiocima o sopstvenom trosku. O mom sigurno neces moci.
Zana,
sada mi je jasno da je tebe Dragan mnogo bolje razumeo nego ja. Ti iznosis neke generalne stavove koji nista ne govore a neprijatno podsecaju na sorosevska kreveljenja i bljezgarije: rat je los, treba gledati sopstvene slabosti, boriti se sa ‘unutrasnjim neprijateljem’… o cemu ti uopste pricas?! Sta si ti – kineski mudrac?
Moram da te podsetim da sve ove kvazi-filozofske apstraktne bezvezarije pises u komentarima ispod clanka o vrlo konkretnim uzasnim zlocinima bosanskih muslimana protiv srpskih civila u okolini Srebrenice. Ako imas nesto konkretno i jasno da kazes po tom pitanju, izvoli i reci. Ali ako imas nameru da muljas i presipas iz supljeg u prazno, kao do sada, budi ljubazna pa se uzdrzi od daljeg javljanja – zaludna sorosevska blebetanja i cederski tripovi nisu dobrodosli.
Otkud ti, uopste, ideja da neko treba da trosi svoje dragoceno vreme na vrludanja tvojih misaonih procesa?! Mozda kad postanes Nobelovac – do tada, kao Zhana (jel’ tvoje ime ×хðýð, zivota ti?!) i sa imbecilnim simbolima kao @ i sl, a posebno sa ovakvim nadri-poetskim aluzijama, migovima i nagovestajima na krajnje neprikladnom mestu komotno mozes malo da oladis.
Ni Dragan, ni bilo ko drugi nije duzan da odgovora na tvoja (besmislena i uvredljiva!) pitanja. Kakva drskost! Ovo nije ni forum, ni chatroom gde se ti blize upoznajes i ispitujes clanove, niti je mesto gde si pozvana da popujes i poducavas druge zivotnim istinama. Ako to zelis, savetujem ti da platis svoj prostor na internetu, kako bi drzala predavanja i lekcije iz morala posetiocima o sopstvenom trosku. O mom sigurno neces moci.
Svetlana,
ne brini, neću se više javljati.
Mada i dalje smatram da je tvoj blog veoma dobar i da ti radiš rudarski posao.
Ukoliko smatraÅ¡ da su moji komentari nepriliÄÂni, molila bih te da ih sve obriÅ¡eÅ¡, pretpostavljam da si to u mogućnosti. Nisam imala nameru da izigravam kineskog mudraca, iako smatram da od tako drevne civilizacije treba Å¡to-Å¡ta da nauÄÂimo, ipak su oni uspeli da saÄÂuvaju svoju zemlju kroz milenijume. A najmanje da vreÄ‘am ljude koji su bili žrtve zloÄÂina. Ja sam samo pokuÅ¡ala da objasnim kako se oseća neko ko je neposredno proživeo sve ove godine, doduÅ¡e ne u Bosni već u Srbiiji. Ali verovatno to tebe ili bilo kog sa ovog bloga ne zanima, ako nije identiÄÂno vaÅ¡em miÅ¡tljenju. Žao mi je Å¡to u sebi nosiÅ¡ toliko ostrašćenosti i mržnje. PlaÅ¡im se da će nas sve to ponovo odvesti u jednoumlje, i ne daj Bože nekom novom Golom otoku. U svakom sluÄÂaju vreme će pokazati.
Zbogom
Žana
Svetlana,
ne brini, neću se više javljati.
Mada i dalje smatram da je tvoj blog veoma dobar i da ti radiš rudarski posao.
Ukoliko smatraÅ¡ da su moji komentari nepriliÄÂni, molila bih te da ih sve obriÅ¡eÅ¡, pretpostavljam da si to u mogućnosti. Nisam imala nameru da izigravam kineskog mudraca, iako smatram da od tako drevne civilizacije treba Å¡to-Å¡ta da nauÄÂimo, ipak su oni uspeli da saÄÂuvaju svoju zemlju kroz milenijume. A najmanje da vreÄ‘am ljude koji su bili žrtve zloÄÂina. Ja sam samo pokuÅ¡ala da objasnim kako se oseća neko ko je neposredno proživeo sve ove godine, doduÅ¡e ne u Bosni već u Srbiiji. Ali verovatno to tebe ili bilo kog sa ovog bloga ne zanima, ako nije identiÄÂno vaÅ¡em miÅ¡tljenju. Žao mi je Å¡to u sebi nosiÅ¡ toliko ostrašćenosti i mržnje. PlaÅ¡im se da će nas sve to ponovo odvesti u jednoumlje, i ne daj Bože nekom novom Golom otoku. U svakom sluÄÂaju vreme će pokazati.
Zbogom
Žana
Zana, nemoj da lupas i da tupis!
Vidim da nemas nista da kazes o stravicnim zlocinima pocinjenim nad Srbima iz okoline Srebrenice. Jasno je da nemas kad jos i na to da se osvrnes, kad te ceka citav licni psiho-filozofski opus i opijanje sopstvenim savrsenstvom. A, povrh svega toga, jos moras i da odvojis deo svog vremena da otvaras oci nama zaslepljenima i ostrascenima, da nas prosvetis, prosvetlis i edukujes… izvesno, samo mozemo da zahvalimo tvojoj velikoj dobroti i nesvakidasnjem moralnom tkivu sto se zrtvujes zarad naseg osvescivanja, mada te niko za to ne placa.
P.S. Ja ne radim rudarski posao, moj posao je posao ljubavi i samilosti prema svojoj jadnoj, nesrecnoj, napacenoj i namucenoj braci i sestrama koji su pretrpeli ratove, stradanja, izbeglistvo, bombardovanje, sankcije, glad i svaku bedu, koji su ponizeni, izvredjani i obespravljeni, i to pre svega zahvaljujuci zverskom Zapadu, a sad moraju jos da trpe i od sopstvenog (iz)roda nove uvrede i ponizenja.
Moj najsrdacniji savet tebi je da se dobro zamislis i razmislis u kojoj grupi si ti, koliko i kako ti pomazes svome rodu i koliko doprinosis da se cela istina o stradanjima tvoje sabrace sazna i obelodani i da li, mozda, svojim nepotrebnim, nekorisnim, samoljubivim pametovanjem zapravo odmazes i stajes drugima na muku. Razmisli o tome ne ni zbog mene, ni zbog drugih Srba ili ne-Srba, vec samo sebe radi i Boga radi.
Zana, nemoj da lupas i da tupis!
Vidim da nemas nista da kazes o stravicnim zlocinima pocinjenim nad Srbima iz okoline Srebrenice. Jasno je da nemas kad jos i na to da se osvrnes, kad te ceka citav licni psiho-filozofski opus i opijanje sopstvenim savrsenstvom. A, povrh svega toga, jos moras i da odvojis deo svog vremena da otvaras oci nama zaslepljenima i ostrascenima, da nas prosvetis, prosvetlis i edukujes… izvesno, samo mozemo da zahvalimo tvojoj velikoj dobroti i nesvakidasnjem moralnom tkivu sto se zrtvujes zarad naseg osvescivanja, mada te niko za to ne placa.
P.S. Ja ne radim rudarski posao, moj posao je posao ljubavi i samilosti prema svojoj jadnoj, nesrecnoj, napacenoj i namucenoj braci i sestrama koji su pretrpeli ratove, stradanja, izbeglistvo, bombardovanje, sankcije, glad i svaku bedu, koji su ponizeni, izvredjani i obespravljeni, i to pre svega zahvaljujuci zverskom Zapadu, a sad moraju jos da trpe i od sopstvenog (iz)roda nove uvrede i ponizenja.
Moj najsrdacniji savet tebi je da se dobro zamislis i razmislis u kojoj grupi si ti, koliko i kako ti pomazes svome rodu i koliko doprinosis da se cela istina o stradanjima tvoje sabrace sazna i obelodani i da li, mozda, svojim nepotrebnim, nekorisnim, samoljubivim pametovanjem zapravo odmazes i stajes drugima na muku. Razmisli o tome ne ni zbog mene, ni zbog drugih Srba ili ne-Srba, vec samo sebe radi i Boga radi.